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== RSS for ElispArea == 

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Ran across this page https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/2005-04-27 , which is showing an `XML::RSS is not available on this system.` error.  

*Does* the ElispArea have a feed?  

I did try to use ##?action=rss&rcidonly=EmacsLisp&all=1&days=28## (from https://oddmuse.org/wiki/Including_RSS_Feeds) but the response says per page feeds aren't available. 

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Yeah, I stopped doing the feed integration part because I think these days people all keep their own feed readers or they don't care about feeds. Either way, there's no need to use the wiki as a "portal" to the web.

The GET method for the RSS action (##?action=rss&rcidonly=EmacsLisp&all=1&days=28##) is not supported because of all the web and feed scraping that's going on. It would still work using a POST request but feed readers don't support it, so it's /de facto/ unusable. However, if you have a HTML page with a form, then you can /submit/ a query that produces the desired result.

I worked something up on [[Changes to elisp libraries]]. -- [[Alex Schroeder]]

== Markup/Generation Issues==

=== Can markup be used in headers? <code>I have failed to do so.</code> ===
Is this documented somewhere?

Use-case: putting a category-tag like <code>CategoryNeedsAttention</code> into a header, without actually invoking it.

Interestingly, the markup in this particular header renders properly in the TOC

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Markup cannot be nested by default. Very few markup elements can in fact be nested. This is not documented anywhere, I think.
Common sense stuff like list items and inline markup can be nested (bold list items, for example).
Emphasis markup using apostrophes is the only inline markup that can be nested: ##''italic '''bold''' and italic''## -> ''italic '''bold''' and italic''. -- AlexSchroeder

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The irony being that markup in headers **is** rendered in the (javascript-built) TOC -- MichaelPaulukonis

=== Apostrophes etc. not prettified in links ==

* ##ain't -- it -- "nice"## => ain't -- it -- "nice"
* ##[EmacsWikiProblems ain't -- it -- "nice"]## => [EmacsWikiProblems ain't -- it -- "nice"]

The link text retains its crude ASCII formatting. -- VegardOye

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Yes, there is no recursive parsing of the link text.
-- Alex

== General Issues ==

=== MeatBall links lead to a spam site now. ===

It looks like usemod dot com domain has expired. Some of the MeatBall links now end up on spam sites eg: AppropriateMedia

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I think this got fixed a while ago. -- MeatBall:AlexSchroeder

=== Many pages missing from Google search results ===

At least until fairly recently, most pages used to show up in Google search results in a reasonable way, often in a general search, certainly if using "site:www.emacswiki.org".  For me today (2025-03-02), that no longer happens; it seems like some pages are searchable but most are not.
* https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aemacswiki.org+Orgmode returns only a CategoryHumor page
* https://duckduckgo.com/?t=h_&q=site%3Aemacswiki.org+Orgmode returns reasonable results
* https://www.bing.com/search?q=site%3Aemacswiki.org+Orgmode returns reasonable results

Google have some useful-looking advice on diagnostics for site admins [https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/9012289?hl=en here].

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Yeah, the traffic from search engines is hard to differentiate from web scraping bots and so these days I just block them all. I don't have a good answer for you, unfortunately. I have written a lot of blog pages about my [https://alexschroeder.ch/view/Butlerian_Jihad Butlerian Jihad] these last one or two years, however. Let me know if you have some good ideas. -- [[Alex Schroeder]]

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